Are Witnesses really "Bible Students"?
No.
we were always told that as witnesses we were "sincere bible students".... carefully examining the scriptures.. yes, we were indeed taught much about the content of the bible, it's history, prophecies etc..... but it was always from one perspective....that of the society.
when the society changed its interpretations, we had to do the same..... so were we really "bible students", or "society students"?.
just a thought.....
Are Witnesses really "Bible Students"?
No.
ok, i am not now, nor will i ever be a jw.
so ive been with my gf for over a year now and she has finally woke up to how destructive the cult was to her!
she turned to it more and had private tutors?
i have no interest whatsoever in stirring up controversy.. in fact, i find clashes of opinion to be debilitatingly negative.. so, i'd simply like to request that we narrow this discussion to evidence.. please watch this video which is tantalizingly titled :.
"there's no such thing as mental illness".. consider this data and listen to the presentation of cause vs. effects and give me your analysis and any evidence for conclusions you may draw.
we all have anecdotal tendencies, but i should remind you, anecdotal testimony isn't evidence, only opinion.________________________________________.
At the 17:20+ he quotes other MDs like Thomas Szasz, author of The Myth of Mental Illness, who have the same belief as he. Quoting his fellow believers? Some of those quotes seem to come from old sources like Szasz's book from 1961! That was before sophisticated brain scans were available.
I read Szasz's book 30 some years ago and I was not impressed.
i have no interest whatsoever in stirring up controversy.. in fact, i find clashes of opinion to be debilitatingly negative.. so, i'd simply like to request that we narrow this discussion to evidence.. please watch this video which is tantalizingly titled :.
"there's no such thing as mental illness".. consider this data and listen to the presentation of cause vs. effects and give me your analysis and any evidence for conclusions you may draw.
we all have anecdotal tendencies, but i should remind you, anecdotal testimony isn't evidence, only opinion.________________________________________.
I only got to the 1:39 mark when I realized where that video was going to go. He's going to accuse the psychiatric profession of having determined these maladies mental illnesses so that pharmaceutical companies could make bookoo bucks. There might be a point that mental illness has been over diagnosed. For example, regular depression that almost everyone has gone through because of a major crisis in their lives versus major depression which afflicts persons throughout their lives even if they have no personal crisis.
I have known schizophrenic persons and I know that there is something imbalanced in their minds; that is their brains. I have known bipolar persons who hallucinate and hear voices in their head.
Just because the pharmaceutical companies are making a killing doesn't mean that the concept of mental illness is wrong.
the articles and meeting parts have been missing something all along, as far as i can see.. jws are taught to demonize all 'worldly' ( not jws) organizations, individuals and religions as having no value only to be destroyed by god at 'harm-you-gettin'-( armageddon ).. why do they not mention islam?no scathing denouncements?.
the only publication i really remember, was the "mankind's search for god" book that touched on the beliefs and practices of muslims.. why do you think this is the case?.
I'll jump in here. Socialism doesn't work because 95 percent of the working population are lazy dogf%#kers.
That hasn't been my experience in the work place. At Home Depot, where I worked, there were lazy montherchuckers who got away with their laziness because my supervisors, thanks to corporate understaffing, were too busy to keep an eye on us.
They would have stayed there forever but I managed to convince them, three different supervisors, to take some time out to watch how the lazy bums were acting and boot them out. That's how I got rid of three workers who would do nothing but clock in and stay in the break room while I was being torn apart by customers who couldn't find someone to help them.
Capitalism did nothing to throw those workers out. It was I.
That is why the Soviet Union couldn't feed themselves. The farmers had no incentive to produce. Capitalism isn't perfect but it does give an incentive. Produce or go hungry and live on the street.
The example I brought up about Publix shows how and why their employees have an incentive to better the company. It's because they literally own the business. They're only one step away from Syndicalism (a form of Socialism) and everyone is happy, especially the customers.
1,000 stores! They've been doing something right for 80 some years.
Everyone here who speaks against Socialism has the cliché version of "State Socialism" in mind with their micromanaging of the economy. That form of Socialism is not what I'm talking about. And it needs to be emphasized that Western European Socialism does not compare with Soviet Socialism. They are feeding themselves without any problems.
when i was a teenager in the borg i was a dyed in the wool, goody two shoes, squeaky clean,"spiritual " sister.
alot of my peers around me were rebelling and going off the rails but not me.
i was constantly praised for this and even felt a little smug about it ha!.
Jehalapeno:
VI: No true Scotsman?
That does apply to conservative Christians.
From my point of view I see them as somebody who keeps saying that he likes the rainbow when in fact he only likes one color and hates the others.
Finkelstein:
...Christian based web sites...
Just a gentle correction. There is no such thing as "Christian" any more than there's such a thing as "American". There are different types of Christians and it is an injustice to lump liberal Christians with conservative Christians. Perry is a Fundamentalist/Conservative Christian whom have large differences with Liberal Christians.
Conservative Christians despise liberal Christians and refer to them as "not the right kind of Christian". They consider themselves to be the only kind of true Christian (Sound familiar?). Calling conservatives "Christians" without the modifier plays into their self-righteous game.